From: aae@bluewin.ch (Andreas Aemissegger)
Newsgroups: ch.general,ch.talk,ch.comp
Subject: RESULTS: ch.ALL Reorganization [English]
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:00:07 GMT
Message-ID: <358ed3d8.2974969@news.bluewin.ch>
RESULTS (F'up ch.general)
new charter for all groups passes 143:3
removing of several groups passes 134:5
unmoderated group ch.bulletin.avalanche passes 123:8
new charter for ch.comp passes 134:7
unmoderated group ch.comp.networks passes 130:9
unmoderated group ch.comp.os.linux passes 124:13
unmoderated group ch.comp.os.ms-windows passes 116:16
unmoderated group ch.finance fails 100:22
new charter for ch.market passes 130:6
unmoderated group ch.market.comp passes 129:6
unmoderated group ch.market.jobs passes 130:6
unmoderated group ch.talk.suisse-romande fails 100:33
unmoderated group ch.test passes 121:10
unmoderated group ch.usenet fails 112:26
ch.ALL Reorganization Details
=============================
There were 149 valid ballots and 3 invalid ballots.
Yes No : 2/3? >=100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ------ : ----- : -------------------------------------------
143 3 : Yes Yes : Yes : New Charter for all groups
134 5 : Yes Yes : Yes : Removing of several groups
123 8 : Yes Yes : Yes : ch.bulletin.avalanche (replaces ch.avalanche)
134 7 : Yes Yes : Yes : ch.comp (new charter)
130 9 : Yes Yes : Yes : ch.comp.networks (replaces ch.network)
124 13 : Yes Yes : Yes : ch.comp.os.linux
116 16 : Yes Yes : Yes : ch.comp.os.ms-windows
100 22 : Yes No : No : ch.finance
130 6 : Yes Yes : Yes : ch.market (new charter)
129 6 : Yes Yes : Yes : ch.market.comp
130 6 : Yes Yes : Yes : ch.market.jobs
100 33 : Yes No : No : ch.talk.suisse-romande
121 10 : Yes Yes : Yes : ch.test
112 26 : Yes No : No : ch.usenet (replaces ch.general)
For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. More
details about this vote are available from http://medicus.ethz.ch
A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no serious
allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
new groups will be created shortly thereafter. The failing groups may not be
voted on again for six months.
The voting period closed at 23:59:59 CEST, 14 Jun 1998.
Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponents.
Proponents: aae@bluewin.ch (Andreas Aemissegger)
b.weidmann@pobox.com (Benjamin Weidmann)
bleichenbacher@mol.biol.ethz.ch (Bleichenbacher Michael)
galland@dasun1.epfl.ch (Blaise Galland)
Votetaker: aae@bluewin.ch (Andreas Aemissegger)
Newsgroup lines
===============
ch.bulletin.avalanche Bulletins of the ISL Davos
ch.comp Computer related topics
ch.comp.networks Network technology and security
ch.comp.os.linux Linux and Unix in general
ch.comp.os.ms-windows The MS-Windows operating system
ch.market Want to buy/sell
ch.market.comp Want to buy/sell computers and peripherals
ch.market.jobs Need/search a job
ch.test A place for test postings
New Charters
============
Charter for all groups
----------------------
This charter is valid for all groups within the ch.* hierarchy if the charter of
a certain group does not define it differently. Binaries should not be posted to
these groups in any case. Avoid using HTML or other specific text formatting
languages. In general, cross-posting among ch.* newsgroups is strongly
discouraged. Contributors may use any written language they would use in
Switzerland, as well as English. Dialects are discouraged. Summary translation
in a second language is encouraged when the subject can interest all the
country. Any message can be answered in the same, or a different language.
Articles should be posted using a ISO-8859-1 capable newsreader. The use of
dreaded Quoted-Printable encoding is discouraged. The general rules of the
"netiquette" (http://www.use-net.ch/Usenet/) apply to these groups.
ch.bulletin.avalanche
---------------------
The national avalanche bulletins of the Swiss Federal Institute for Snow and
Avalanche Research Davos (SLF Davos) are published in this group. As the
postings in this group are just for information of the public, contributions of
other users than the SLF may only be posted in exceptional cases.
ch.comp
-------
This newsgroup is about computers and everything related to it if there is not a
special newsgroup covering the topic. The discussion may cover the following
topics:
- general interesting topics of the Swiss UNIX users group
- announcements of conferences
- computers and drivers in general
- internet and whatever belongs to it
- programming in general
- availability of applications
- various things of and about the Swiss Informatics Society
Please state already in the subject what computer system you are using if the
problem you are discussing is related to it (considering that not everybody
within the usenet is using the same computer system as you do).
ch.comp.networks
----------------
The discussion in this group is about networking technology and safety. Network
break-downs or the opening of new lines can be announced here.
ch.comp.os.linux
----------------
This newsgroup will include all discussions about linux (Linux is a
freely-distributed operating system similar to unix) and may cover the following
topics:
- compatibility and installation of hardware components with Linux on
different platforms
- software aspects of communication and networking with Linux
- general questions about the Linux X-Window system
- discussion of non-technical questions concerning Linux users
ch.comp.os.ms-windows
---------------------
This newsgroup will include all discussions about the operating systems of the
Microsoft Windows family (hardware independent) and all applications running
under the given operating systems.
ch.market
---------
Here's the place for small ads about buying, selling or exchanging anything that
is not covered by a special group. The postings may cover the following topics:
- selling/buying things
- renting houses, cars, etc.
- commercial announcements (short and clear, no page filling ads!)
No requests or offers from other countries are allowed if they are not coming
from a region close to the swiss borders. It is especially important to point
out in this newsgroup that within the usenet it is unpolite to post the same
article several times.
ch.market.comp
--------------
Offers and requests concerning computers, including software, hardware,
literature, courses and everything of importance to people interested in this
field. The subject field should contain valuable information about what you want
to buy ('S:' abbreviation for 'Suche' germ.) or sell ('V:' abbreviation for
'Verkaufe' germ.) and what computer system it belongs to.
Commercial advertising would not be appreciated at all. No requests or offers
from other countries are allowed if they are not coming from a region close to
the swiss borders. It is especially important to point out in this newsgroup
that within the usenet it is unpolite to post the same article several times.
ch.market.jobs
--------------
Offers and requests for positions and other jobs should be posted in this group.
No requests or offers from other countries are allowed if they are not closely
related to Switzerland or are not coming from a region close to the swiss
borders. It is especially important to point out in this newsgroup that within
the usenet it is unpolite to post the same article several times.
ch.test
-------
You may post test articles in this newsgroup if you do not have access to a
local newsgroup (a newsgroup that only exists on your providers server) that is
assigned for testing your usenet software or access.
Voting Analysis
===============
A clean vote, no serious problems occured. The first vote was received on Tue,
26 May 1998 01:40:20 CEST.
New Charter for all groups passed on Wed Jun 3 18:30:33 1998
Removing of several groups passed on Wed Jun 3 19:39:13 1998
ch.bulletin.avalanche (replaces ch.avalanche) passed on Sat Jun 6 07:02:40
1998
ch.comp (new charter) passed on Sun May 31 09:22:58 1998
ch.comp.networks (replaces ch.network) passed on Thu Jun 4 01:01:52 1998
ch.comp.os.linux passed on Sat Jun 6 07:02:40 1998
ch.comp.os.ms-windows passed on Tue Jun 9 00:20:05 1998
ch.market (new charter) passed on Fri Jun 5 09:16:06 1998
ch.market.comp passed on Fri Jun 5 17:10:45 1998
ch.market.jobs passed on Fri Jun 5 09:16:06 1998
ch.test passed on Sun Jun 7 11:32:15 1998
ch.ALL Reorganization Final Voter List
======================================
ch.usenet (replaces ch.general) ----------------+
ch.test ---------------+|
ch.talk.suisse-romande --------------+||
ch.market.jobs -------------+|||
ch.market.comp ------------+||||
ch.market (new charter) -----------+|||||
ch.finance ----------+||||||
ch.comp.os.ms-windows ---------+|||||||
ch.comp.os.linux --------+||||||||
ch.comp.networks (replaces ch.network) -------+|||||||||
ch.comp (new charter) ------+||||||||||
ch.bulletin.avalanche (replaces ch.avalanche) -----+|||||||||||
Removing of several groups ----+||||||||||||
New Charter for all groups ---+|||||||||||||
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andae [at] bluewin.ch Andreas Daengeli YYYYYYY-YYY-YY
andy.schaub [at] bluewin.ch Andy Schaub YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
antonio [at] ifi.unizh.ch Denis N. Antonioli YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
b.weidmann [at] pobox.com Benjamin Weidmann YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
dbrack [at] spectraweb.ch Daniel Brack YYYYYYY-YYYYYY
beh [at] icemark.ch Benedikt Eric Heinen YYYYYYYYYYYYYN
billy [at] bill.rol.ch Stefan Bill YYYYYYYYYYYYYN
blacklotus [at] datacomm.ch Mike Pfaff YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
bloch5 [at] uni2a.unige.ch Stefan M. BLOCH YYNYYYYYYYYYY-
boos [at] trash.net Daniel Boos YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
burse [at] cyberlink.ch Jan Burse NNYYYYYYYYYNYN
c.hartmann [at] pop.agri.ch Christian Hartmann YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
Carmine.Chiancone [at] chiorg.unige.ch Carmine CHIANCONE YYNYYYNNNNNNNN
cbbc [at] islandnet.com Claire Champod YY---------Y-Y
cbuser [at] access.ch Christian F. Buser -YYYYYNNYYYYYN
Charles.Bueche [at] swisscom.com Charles Bueche YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
chris [at] staubli.ch Christian Staubli YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
christoph.mueller [at] soz.unibe.ch Christoph Mueller YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
claudio [at] dial.eunet.ch Claudio Nieder YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
coco6 [at] gmx.net Corinne Favre YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
cornel.fuerer [at] helvetiapatria.ch Cornel Fuerer YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
dani [at] tethys.iridium.ch Daniel Rueegg YYYYYYYNYYYNYY
daniel [at] folly.ch Daniel Folly YYYYYNNNYYYNYY
delfosse-a [at] bal.ge-dip.etat-ge.ch Antoine DELFOSSE YNY--------YYY
didier.divorne [at] worldcom.ch Didier et Nicole Divorne YYYYNNYYYYYYYY
diggel [at] lhc.lhep.unibe.ch Urs Diggelmann YYYYYYY-YYYY-Y
dingo [at] vtx.ch INGOLD DANIEL YY---------YYY
DJoss [at] bluewin.ch Daniel Joss Y--YYYY-YYY--Y
Dominik.Madon [at] di.epfl.ch Dominik Madon YY-YYYY----Y-N
doru.trandafir [at] worldcom.ch Doru Trandafir YYYYYYY-Y-YYYN
dumont [at] TEQUILA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU Bernard Dumont YYYYYYYNYYYNNY
e.keller [at] bluewin.ch E.Keller YYYNNNNYYYYYYY
eearnold [at] ztl.ch Michael Arnold YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
ehrbar [at] eek.ee.ethz.ch Peter Ehrbar YYYYYYYNYYYNYY
engler [at] texter.ch Engler, Stefan YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
etienne [at] imp.ch Stefan Hauser NYYNNNNNYYYYYN
Felix.Rauch [at] Nice.Usergroup.ETHZ.CH Felix Rauch YYYYYYY-YYY-YY
fkauflin [at] access.ch Franz Kauflin YYYYYYYYYYYNYN
fmoser [at] access.ch Felix Moser YYYNNNNNYYYYNN
folco.banfi [at] unifr.ch Folco Banfi YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
franck.perrot [at] epfl.ch franck perrot YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Francoise.Piguet [at] sebib.unige.ch Delphine Piguet YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
frederic.pignat [at] hec.unil.ch Fr=E9d=E9ric Pignat YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Fritz.Lehmann2 [at] swisscom.com Fritz Lehmann YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
fritz.steinmann [at] ubs.com Fritz Steinmann YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Gaby.Freudiger [at] blw.admin.ch Gaby Freudiger Y-YYYYYNYYY-YY
galland [at] dasun1.epfl.ch Blaise Galland YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
garance [at] nota.ch Garance Drosehn Y----------Y--
GeorgesRosset [at] iprolink.ch Georges Rosset YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
geyer [at] stud.chem.ethz.ch Michael Geyer YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
gysi [at] bluewin.ch Reto Gysi YYNYYYYYYYYYYN
hag [at] gmx.net helmut schacher YYYYYNNYYYYNYY
hang.loose [at] gmx.net Beat Grab YYNYYYYYYYYY--
happl.oberlin [at] iname.com Hanspeter Oberlin YYYYYYYYYYYYYN
haribos [at] mygale.org Durand jack YYYYY-YYYYYYNY
hendric.stattmann [at] gmx.net Hendric Stattmann YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
herscher [at] iprolink.ch Michel HERRSCHER YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
heuer [at] cyberlink.ch heuer YYYYYYYNYYYYYY
hhaenni [at] webshuttle.ch Hans-Rudolf Hänni YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
holger.rietmann [at] knorr.ch Holger Rietmann NNNNNNNNNNNNNN
howag [at] bluewin.ch Thomas F. Howald YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
hslama [at] datacomm.ch Heribert Slama YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
jawenger [at] studi.unizh.ch JAN WENGER YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
Jean-Albert.Ferrez [at] epfl.ch Jean-Albert Ferrez YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
JKle9 [at] aol.com John Klein YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
jm [at] ctm.ch Jean-Michel Karr Y----------Y--
jpu [at] gmx.net J. Pumel YYYYYYYYYYYYNY
jschlesinger [at] mus.ch Jacques Schlesinger YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
jvirchaux [at] shiva.epfl.ch Jacques Virchaux -Y-YY--N---N-N
klaeger [at] dial.eunet.ch Thomas Klaeger YYYYYYY-YYYYYY
koerte [at] bluewin.ch Michael Körte YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lang [at] bluewin.ch Patrick Lang YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lkarrer [at] stud.ee.ethz.ch Lukas Karrer YYYYYNNYYYY-YY
lueg [at] ifi.unizh.ch Christopher Lueg YYNNNNNYNNNNYY
luethim [at] webshuttle.ch Marc Luethi YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
marchetto [at] pingnet.ch Anita Marchetto YYYNNNNYYYY-YN
marvin [at] stargazer.dataway.ch Andreas Umbach -YYYYYYYNNNYNN
matt [at] worldcom.ch Matt Houriet Y-YYYYYYYYYYYN
mdotta [at] bluewin.ch Marco Dotta YYYYYYYNYYYNYY
meringo [at] gmx.net thomas zippo YYYYYYY-YYYY-Y
Michael.Leu [at] swisscom.com Michael Leu YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
MichaelHirt [at] Swissonline.ch Michael Hirt YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
montjo [at] iprolink.ch Pascal Montjovent YYYYY--NNNNYYY
mschwen [at] ibm.net Michael Schwendimann YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
muellerk [at] dial.eunet.ch Kurt Mueller Y--YYYY-YYY--Y
mussi [at] snoop.alphanet.ch Rene Laederach YYYYYY-YYYYYYY
mziswile [at] iiic.ethz.ch Ziswiler Marcel YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
nathalie.prudent [at] epfl.ch Nathalie Prudent YY-YYY--YYYYYY
neeri [at] iis.ee.ethz.ch Matthias Neeracher YYYYYYYYYYY-YY
nnyffp [at] ascom.ch Philipp Nyffenegger YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
olivier [at] olsen.ch Olivier Pictet Y----------Y--
omueller [at] stud.ee.ethz.ch Olivier Mueller YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
ovb [at] ovb.ch Oliver von Bueren YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
papadim4 [at] hei.unige.ch Papadimitriou Paul P. YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
patrick.sprecher [at] systor.com Patrick Sprecher YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Paul.Corbett [at] swisscom.com Paul Corbett YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
pgreuter [at] teaser.fr Peter Greuter YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
phc [at] gmx.net Philippe Cade YYYYYYY-YYYNYY
pjw [at] iname.com Peter Walser YYYYYYYYYYYYYN
ps.shah [at] datacomm.ch Pierce Shah YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
r.beyeler [at] rhone.ch R. Beyeler YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
remo.nospam [at] gmx.net Remo Hofer YYYYYNNNYYYNYY
res [at] inorg.chem.ethz.ch Andreas Eggenschwiler Y--Y-Y--------
reto.hotz [at] gmx.de Reto Hotz YY-YYYY-----YY
reto.jud [at] unifr.ch Reto Jud YYYYYYYNYYYNNY
ro-bra [at] bluewin.ch Rolf Brandenberger YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
roger.luechinger [at] brainstore.com Roger L=FCchinger YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
roman_r [at] writeme.com Roman Racine YYYNNNNYYYYYY-
sam [at] maxess.ch SUCHET Stéphane YYYYYYYYYYYYYN
sam [at] trash.net Simon Ramseier YYYYYYY-YYY--Y
schutz [at] cui.unige.ch Frederic Schutz YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
sgrob [at] ibm.net Samuel Grob YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
simon [at] limmat.switch.ch Simon Leinen YYYYYYYYYYYNYY
skilchen [at] swissonline.ch Samuel Kilchenmann YYYYYYYYYYYYYN
Sof [at] who.net Sophie Delaloye YY-Y-Y--YYYYY-
spaa9297 [at] span.ch GUYE Nicolas YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
srml [at] discordia.ch Daniel Werner YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
sruckstuhl [at] bigfoot.com Sandro Ruckstuhl YY-YYYY-YYY--Y
sschaetti [at] datacomm.ch Siegfried Schätti YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Stefan.Odendahl [at] siemens.ch Stefan Odendahl YYNYYYYYYYYNYY
stefan.thoma [at] sunrise.ch Stefan Thoma YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
stefano [at] galileo.pr.net.ch Stefano Unternaehrer YYYYYY-NYYYNYY
stephane.plattner [at] dms.ch Stephane [IIS_MVP] YYYYYYYNYYYYYN
straumann [at] datacomm.ch Christian Straumann=09 YYYYYYYYYYY--N
strebel [at] inf.ethz.ch Rolf Strebel YYYYYY-YYYYNYY
stupan [at] bluewin.ch Nuot Stupan YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
sven.kirmess [at] earthling.net Sven Kirmess YYYYYYYNYYYYYY
t.roeskens [at] bluewin.ch Thomas Roeskens YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
tele [at] tubul.active.ch Patrick Seemann YYYYYYYNYYYYNY
tgantner [at] datacomm.ch Thomas Gantner YYYYYYNYYYYYYY
the_crow [at] bluewin.ch Christoph Krähenmann YNYYYYYYYYYYYY
thomas.portmann [at] elca.ch thomas portmann YYNYYYYYYYYNYN
tobias.weibel [at] gmx.net Tobias Weibel YY-YYYYNYYY-YY
ulrich.scherrer [at] ubs.com Ulrich Scherrer YYYYYNNYYYYNYY
umanser [at] iiic.ethz.ch Urs Manser YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
usteiner [at] studi.unizh.ch Urs Steiner YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
vispro [at] tic.ch Ueli Schuepfer YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
wbrawand [at] pop.agri.ch Werner Brawand YYYYYYY-YYYYY-
webmaster [at] goldenplanet.com Eduard Brezny YYYYNYNYNNNYYY
widmer [at] wpw.ch Matthias Widmer YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
womyn [at] oase.ch Susanne Maeder YYYYYYYYYYYYYY
zicge [at] iprolink.ch Fred Harder YYYYYYYYYYYYYN
ziswiler_adrian [at] bigfoot.com Ziswiler Adrian YYYYYY--YYY-YY
zozieau [at] innocent.com Sylvie Freymond YYYYYYYNYYYNNN
Votes in error
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pfisr [at] bluewin.ch
! No name given
postmaster [at] ctm.ch Jacques-Albert Gos
! Invalid address
taxcard [at] collector.org Jean-Bernard MANI
! Violated rule 2